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## When Was The Last Time You Built A Site Without A CMS?

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From websites built without a CMS to QR codes on work vans and AI-generated novels, we cover a mix of current web and tech topics.

<a name="show-notes"></a>### Show Notes

Discussion on the benefits and limitations of non-CMS websites, with real life examples and suggestions for using AI as a tool instead of a replacement.

- The use of AI in writing books
- The benefits and potential drawbacks of AI generated meeting notes (18:50 - 23:04)
- The use of AI to alter faces in documentaries (23:04 - 26:56)
- The use of AI in fashion industry (26:56 - 30:38)

### Show Links

- [Trust Me: The False Profit](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt40826311/)
- [Notion](https://www.notion.com/)

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**\[00:00\]** **Amanda:** Hey, hey, hey, everybody! It is the website 101 Podcast. Thank you for joining us today. It is our Wednesday lunch bite. It happens on the first and third Wednesday of every month. Hello, my name is Amanda Loots. I am one of the co-hosts of the website 101 Podcast. With me are both Sean and Mike. Hey friends, how are you? Hello. Hello.

**\[00:27\]** **Sean:** How's everybody doing today?

**\[00:29\]** **Amanda:** Awesome. I am good. For those who are new and just figuring this out still, we were doing really great at putting out these like twice a month lunch bites on the YouTube live. And so we decided to also take these and make them podcast episodes because it was taking us too much effort to plan on a real on its own side episode. So hey dear listener, if you like what you hear, you can always join us on the first or third Wednesday of every month at 11.30 a.m. Eastern Time for our YouTube live.

**\[01:08\]** **Sean:** Yeah. And then the podcast release of the live stream will come likely the following week could come earlier. We are still planning on doing actual regular episodes where we talk about a specific topic. Yes. It's less banter, more focused, and maybe have a guest as well. So those are coming. But this is going to be the main focus of our show is these lunch bites.

**\[01:35\]** **Mike:** Yes. And by the way, if you have any suggestions for topics for upcoming episodes, feel free to mention it to us. The best way would be website 101podcast.com slash contact. And you could reach out to us that way if you have any ideas.

**\[01:50\]** **Amanda:** Yes. Yes.

**\[01:52\]** **Sean:** Yes.

**\[01:53\]** **Amanda:** I have a question for you too.

**\[01:56\]** **Sean:** Fire away.

**\[01:57\]** **Amanda:** Thinking about this the other day, when was the last time you worked on a site that did not contain a content management system?

**\[02:05\]** **Mike:** About four years ago. I don't know that I even remember. Yes.

**\[02:14\]** **Amanda:** Do you think that you ever would be willing to go back and do that? Nope.

**\[02:21\]** **Sean:** Yes. Not willing.

**\[02:23\]** **Amanda:** Because if a client is going to pay, you're going to do money talks. But it's like, so in this day and age, can you think of any benefit of maybe not using a CMS?

**\[02:36\]** **Sean:** Sure. For a brochure site or a single page site, and it's just really basic content, and the client has all the content prepared. They send it to you and you just drop it in. It's going to be simple and low budget, and it will be so performant because there's not going to be any database calls or anything.

**\[02:58\]** **Mike:** Yes. I would also say that that's exactly the kind of site that I made before. If a client doesn't want to manage the site, and I'm managing the site for them, moving forward, it doesn't really need. I mean, there's a good chance that it might not need a database because I could just do everything as like whatever JSON things in the templates and that kind of stuff, especially with AI now. You can do all kinds of cool stuff. So I guess that could work. But I'd be worried that it would get to a point where it's like, okay, now this is not manageable this way. So now we have this big upgrade that we have to do that kind of thing.

**\[03:40\]** **Sean:** Yeah. I could see that being something to think about going forward. But if it looked like it would go that way, it's probably something I would bring up before going with the NoCMS. And like I said, if it's a small brochure site or a single page landing thing, one that I did a few years ago was for an event and the site was only going to be up for two months and then it was going to be gone. Yeah. And it was an eternal, internal event. So it wasn't even like the public needed to know about it. It was like, can you just build this for us? It was like, yeah, no problem. So done. So there are use cases for it. But anytime that a client might need to edit, I think then you need to CMS is probably the best choice. Just like what Microsoft?

**\[04:32\]** **Mike:** Amanda, what's your answer to that question? Have you worked on non-CMS websites recently?

**\[04:40\]** **Amanda:** And in fact, I'm doing one right now. But there's not content. It's very, very data driven and all of the data is coming from API calls. So like data from the apparently linked in has its own analytics. And you can actually, they have API calls so that you can like get data from like post views and post interactions and engagement and shares and things like that. So it is a lot of like data coming directly from LinkedIn. And it was like, okay, cool, fine, no problem. A lot of HTML, a lot of JavaScript. But then of course, they still wanted user logins and there's still user management. And there's still so all of this stuff that normally would have been all CMS. I've been having to write with PHP. It's been fun to flex my mental muscle. Remember how it works. Yeah, I could see that.

**\[05:44\]** **Sean:** I can imagine. Sure.

**\[05:45\]** **Mike:** I have a funny story to tell you guys. I don't know how funny it is. I think it's funny. Actually, it has a tip at the end for the listener slash viewer, especially if they work with clients and so on. Anyway, here we go. I was driving the other day. I was behind this truck, a commercial vehicle of some kind. And they had the URL of their company on the back like bumper sticker type thing printed on the back of the truck. And it was twomne.ca. And I thought, T women, trans women, what is this? And I drove around. The company's called Two Men and a Truck. It was two men.ca. But I read it as T-Wim. Right? Let's go ahead, Sean. Yeah, it's up to say.

**\[06:42\]** **Sean:** I hired them. I used to go and I moved from a rental to the house that I'm living in now that I bought. I hired that company.

**\[06:53\]** **Mike:** Sure. Not disparaging the company. I'm sure they're great. They're very popular. Two men and a truck, they're called.

**\[07:00\]** **Amanda:** But what else could you do for a domain name? I understand your confusion.

**\[07:06\]** **Mike:** Yeah, so the tip I was going to say was if you're working with clients and they have whatever their domain is, but especially if it's kind of hard to read. And my company's called Be Like Water. Be Like Water.ca. That happens all the time. I'm on the phone with some part telemarketer, not telemarker, but someone who I'm actually giving my website to or my email address, for example. They're often like reading it off of their sheet and they'd say, belly, belly, k-wa. And I'm like, it's three words, be like water and I can. Anyway, my tip would be when you're printing out your URL or typing it or whatever, make the words like look different. You could make one word a different color than another. Different font types. Yeah. Font types. You could capitalize it because the URLs are not case sensitive. Just capitalize each word.

**\[08:00\]** **Sean:** Yeah, I'm okay, so.

**\[08:02\]** **Mike:** Yeah, so there's all kinds of things you can do to make it clear that it's two words without adding hyphens in your URL because no one wants that. Anyway, I just thought it was a funny story. Tea women, it's not tea women, it's too men. It's like those, remember that joke with Experts Exchange from years ago when people were reading experts, experts, sex change? Or like penisland.com and they thought it said penis land. Like this kind of stuff all this happens all the time. So you have to make sure that your URL is very obviously what it's supposed to be. So there's my tip there for the.

**\[08:37\]** **Sean:** This lunchpights brought to you by two men in a truck.

**\[08:41\]** **Mike:** Hey, I'm sure they're great.

**\[08:44\]** **Sean:** Yeah.

**\[08:45\]** **Mike:** Yeah.

**\[08:46\]** **Sean:** I was satisfied with them. Good, good.

**\[08:50\]** **Amanda:** I think I've told this story before. This is also going back to like the domain names of your company and when you're registering it and maybe give half a thought. It was also on the back of a truck and they had their domain name, but it was something crazy and ridiculous and long like Bob and Sun Garden maintenance.com. But it was like four or five words all put together in this like it must have been like a 30 character long domain name. And I understand that you know, if that's your company and Bob and Sun is, I'm sure somebody with like, that was a quote unquote SEO expert suggested to them that you don't have all the keywords in the domain name, but it was, yeah, it was a bit unwieldy. I laughed.

**\[09:43\]** **Sean:** I thought it was really funny. Yeah. That kind of thing would be more common years ago and then you've got this legacy domain, but a simple fix for these vehicles or like a bus shelter or whatever, put a QR code

**\[09:58\]** **Amanda:** on there. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, but especially if it's on the back of your vehicle, which is the most people to be able to remember. But if you're driving around, you don't want the people to like try to pull out a phone to you.

**\[10:13\]** **Sean:** Yeah, I think that is fine. You put the, you write the URL out and you put a QR code in there. But everybody is a driver who's in a vehicle.

**\[10:23\]** **Mike:** I know, but, but if you're driving past, if it's on the back of your truck there, yeah,

**\[10:28\]** **Amanda:** yeah. Okay. If it's on the back of the truck, people, people chasing you down the street with their phone trying to get the QR code. Yeah.

**\[10:35\]** **Sean:** No, but I was actually, this was a several months ago, it was behind some vehicle as a similar situation and they did have a QR code and my son was in the car with me and I was behind them and I asked him to take a picture and he had to wait until we stopped at a stop light, but it does help.

**\[10:54\]** **Mike:** Sure. Sure.

**\[10:56\]** **Sean:** And you put, you put both there so that you can try and remember the URL if you're alone and should not be using your phone while you're driving.

**\[11:04\]** **Mike:** Yes. I, I remember I sold the story I'm sure on the show before when I was in a band years ago, at least 20 years ago, we were on tour with this band once called Hotels and obviously at the time, they're not going to get Hotels.com as their URL. So what they did, and obviously it works as a memorable URL because I remembered to this day and even though I don't know what, I assume that band doesn't even exist, their URL was freetinysoap.com because you know, when you go to a hotel, you get the little bar so I like that.

**\[11:39\]** **Sean:** That's so great.

**\[11:40\]** **Mike:** That's nice. So memorable URLs, sir.

**\[11:42\]** **Sean:** I was expecting to be something like hotel band.com or something like that. Yeah. Freetinysoap.com. That's great. I love that.

**\[11:51\]** **Mike:** It's awesome. I remembered it. You know, so that's great. Okay. I have some things I want to talk about. I'm afraid it's AI related and as such as my wand. We can't go away from it.

**\[12:06\]** **Amanda:** Yeah.

**\[12:07\]** **Mike:** Go. I do have, I do some questions for you about it though because so my general theme here is going to be about what is AI good for, what is it bad for? So I don't know if you heard about this controversy that's going on about books that are being published that are using AI. Have you heard about this book called Shy Girl?

**\[12:27\]** **Amanda:** I think I don't know specifically about that book but I have heard about a publication of the book that I'm trying to crack down on AI created content.

**\[12:42\]** **Mike:** Right.

**\[12:43\]** **Sean:** I haven't heard anything.

**\[12:44\]** **Mike:** Okay. So generally in the literary world, there's a big controversy about our people using AI to write their books. So they not should we be canceling them, etc. And there's this woman named Mia Ballard who wrote a book called Shy Girl which for some reason is really popular but when I get into the story, you might wonder why that is. Because someone accused her of using AI to write her book and her publisher retracted the book as I understand and she had a self published like they didn't back her up at all and it's a big thing. But I read or I watched this kind of take down on YouTube of that particular book and one of the things that someone said was the word sharp appears in that book 159 times which averages out to almost once per page, about once per page and I have seen. Isn't that wild? And he gave all these examples sharp in this, sharp in that. And there was many examples of that and there's other examples of other books where they apparently accidentally leave the AI prompt in the in the page. So it would start saying I can help you expand on this section if you would like. Would you like me to do that? Yeah. In the middle of the book.

**\[13:59\]** **Amanda:** I've seen examples of that on like university essays and you know job applications both the post and somebody replying to it. So it's yeah, it's God review, review anything that you're copying and pasting God. Right.

**\[14:16\]** **Sean:** That's hilarious. Yeah. And I could definitely see somebody who wants to break into being an author as like trying to shortcut it with AI rather than write it and use AI to improve the writing just like yeah. Can you write me a chapter? This is what I have outlined. And then the AI writes the chapter and you accidentally leave the prompt at the end. Would you like me to move on to chapter two now?

**\[14:48\]** **Mike:** Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's painful. So apparently that's a big thing. That's another example of like in the the art world everyone hates it.

**\[14:57\]** **Amanda:** Now we've talked a lot about the problems at the music industry. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Like AI generated songs and AI artists and like some random nobody who will create 18 artists of all of the different genres and then each artist suddenly has like 18 albums that have like two dozen songs each. But like people have gone in and and so like one person is collecting the money from all of these songs and it is very well known in the music industry that artists don't make that much money like mere pennies for like every time I said like fractions of a penny for every time a song is streamed. But if you've got one person who's created all of the artists and all of the genres like just inundating like with too many songs and I can I can definitely see how somebody's going to try to do that to scam the system and get this is in Pulsing Bank.

**\[15:55\]** **Sean:** I would like to also point out that the opposite is sort of happening that online you will see people accusing anything and everything of being AI generated. Yeah, especially if it includes some high vocabulary like words that uneducated people don't know. I tend to be a bit of a pedant so one of the things I love is that pedant is in itself pedantry. So yeah, so I have been accused of asking AI to write something for me. Yeah, I never do that. I mean, okay, never is not the wrong word but when I'm on social media or something like on Reddit and writing, I don't use AI. I was like, I spit out my angry opinions the way I want them to be.

**\[16:50\]** **Mike:** Well, I'll tell you that people when it first started happening and everyone jumped on the M-dash, I've heard all these people that I know saying I use the M-dash all the time. I'm not going to stop using. Yeah, Sean's putting his hand up for our listeners. I have since stopped. Well, listen, what I will claim is it's not the use of the M-dash. It's the overuse of it. I would say that in the stuff that I've read that I would suggest is AI written, it's like no one who claims to be a good writer would use things like that that frequently. I saw one article one time that was it had 37 M-dashes in it in a one-page article. That's cool. If that's you and you choose you're not a good writer. You're either AI or you're not good at your job.

**\[17:43\]** **Sean:** The more that I use AI recently, the more I'm starting to recognize the patterns that it does and the overuse of M-dashes is one of them. Really it should be periods or colons. But the other one is they love to use these lists. Everything is ABC. Yes. And then they use overly flowery language. There's way too many adjectives. You're not some Victorian era author. Come on. It's like just some adjectives are needed but you don't need to. When you read it, you can really feel that it was written by AI. So when I'm almost done. When I'm actually writing stuff and I use AI to help me, I pull some of that shit out and or I tell it, look, revise it, make it simpler. And I think these are things that other people need to do. Sorry, Amanda.

**\[18:47\]** **Amanda:** Go ahead. Sorry. Going back to the book.

**\[18:50\]** **Mike:** What was the book called again? Shy girl. Shy girl. Is it the one I was talking about?

**\[18:55\]** **Amanda:** Yeah. Yeah, I think that was the one you were talking about. My question is if the whether or not the author wrote it themselves or used AI, whatever, I know absolutely nothing about the publishing industry but I thought that they had a pretty like editors. Don't you have to like isn't an editor given to you by the publishing company? Yeah. Doesn't the editor have to go through it with the agent before it even goes to print? Like how the who dropped the ball that some editor didn't go through or that the agent didn't read it, that somebody didn't proofread it when the author was like done. Right.

**\[19:39\]** **Mike:** Yeah, something's not right. My understanding, I haven't read all the details of this but my understanding is that the author is accusing the editor of having used AI, not her. The author didn't, the editor did. Like ran it through and did a bunch of stuff after the fact. I don't get it either. It seems like a pretty big change to a book to rewriting words like that but I don't know. I don't know much about writing novels.

**\[20:05\]** **Sean:** You know one thing I could see. I'm not saying this happened at all. Editors getting fired and remaining editors relying more and more on AI to do their job for them and not actually reviewing the content. It's like, yeah, I did it. Good for the last five author, five books. So I'm just going to assume it does it here and boom. This is something I could see happening. I'm not saying it does happen.

**\[20:35\]** **Mike:** Like those cases of lawyers referencing cases that didn't actually exist because they got AI to try to pull something out of things like that.

**\[20:42\]** **Sean:** Oh yeah, using hallucinations for me.

**\[20:45\]** **Mike:** Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so let me move on here. That's obviously the negative side of AI there. I would argue there is something that I think is indisputably a good use of AI and that would be summarizing meetings. So now Amanda, Sean, you weren't on this episode but we did an episode Amanda and I have it here. I think it was on June 4th of last year. Well put it in the show notes where we walk through notions meeting note taker thing. We did it on the episode. We did and then it summarized it at the end.

**\[21:21\]** **Amanda:** Remember that?

**\[21:22\]** **Mike:** And it was awesome and I now use an app called granola to take meeting notes. I think it's fantastic. The notes are better than I would take. I can now speak to the client freely and not focus on writing stuff down. I can actually focus on what they're saying and I have this great, you know, even next steps and stuff. It's just fantastic. It's a win win. That's a great use of AI. I would argue. It's not necessarily taking anyone's job.

**\[21:50\]** **Amanda:** But again, like this is the difference. You're not asking AI to do the thing for you. You're using it as a tool to help you with a part of your job. Like it's not editing the entire book and making changes. It's not trying to come up with a contract that's going to like hallucinate a bunch of garbage. It's just doing one little part that's other people are still interacting with. And I think that that is what AI should be used for.

**\[22:20\]** **Mike:** Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think it's something I came up with was like, you know, I am really thrilled that AI exists for that reason only. Like, I know there's all this controversial stuff elsewhere, but that's a really great use, I think. Now, let me move on to the next thing. Now this is something I want to know what your thoughts are. Yesterday I was watching a show on Netflix. It's called Trust Me, The False Profit. It's a documentary series about a religious cult and sexual abuse. It's fantastic, by the way, if you're in it's really sort of triggering. So you got to be careful there. But it's really great. And they're trying to take down this religious cult leader for sexual abuse of minors is what

**\[23:04\]** **Amanda:** it's about. Yeah. The filmmaker, the documentary maker, she like makes herself a friend of the cult. Yeah, she kind of infiltrates. Yeah.

**\[23:15\]** **Mike:** Not not to be part of the cult, but just to be a kind of a neighbor or something. I think she's kind of acting like she's making a documentary about them just as a documentary. Okay. And what she's actually doing is trying to get the cult leader to admit this stuff. It's kind of like that. So here's where the AI comes in. As I'm watching this show, they have all these obviously interviews with the women that are involved in this cult. And they talk about various things. And sometimes they interview these underage girls who presumably were abused by this guy. And then there's a disclaimer that comes up that says to protect the identities of the underage, supposed victims, etc. Their faces have been digitally altered. And as I'm watching it, normally you would have someone's face blurred if they're like being interviewed and it's a minor. Instead of blurring it, they have an AI version of their face. They've AI-ified their face. So you still see someone speaking and looking emotional and so on, but it's not the real person.

**\[24:20\]** **Sean:** So I'm wondering if I prefer the blur.

**\[24:22\]** **Amanda:** Yeah. Okay. Did it still look like a child?

**\[24:27\]** **Mike:** Well, okay. I'm not through the whole series.

**\[24:30\]** **Amanda:** It's like an emoji face. If it's like a funny emoji face that's talking, then I mean, I think that's okay. But like an animated one is different. Yeah. But like to just change it to be a different child, that's still gross.

**\[24:43\]** **Sean:** I think it needs to feel fake so that we can tell that they're hiding or protecting the identity. If it looks like a real person, how do I know that the software hasn't fucked up?

**\[24:56\]** **Mike:** Yeah. Well, I guess, see, here's what I see your point. And to answer your question, I've only gotten part of the way through the series, but there was a time when I saw someone interviewed and I was like, what? There's something weird here like an uncanny valley and I realized that it's not a real face, but it's not totally evident at some cases. Sometimes it's pretty realistic. And you know, the AI will follow the emotions. And this is what I'm wondering if it's beneficial because you're, you know, if you have a blurred face and she's talking about God forbid some event that happened and she's getting emotional about it, you hear a voice, but you wouldn't see anything. But if you had an AI sort of replicating the face while concealing her identity, you get the emotion in the face as well. Does it convey the message that you're...

**\[25:44\]** **Sean:** I think all like the audio is going to convey enough emotion. You can tell when somebody's getting upset just by their tone of voice and... I agree. Crying or... Well, that's that... That's anything or whatever. Yeah, you don't need to see anger or tears on their face. You don't need to see that.

**\[26:04\]** **Mike:** Or subtle claims.

**\[26:06\]** **Sean:** I would rather know that it's... They are protecting the identity because it's obviously fake to me than something that, hey, I might run into her on the street and recognize her because how am I supposed to know if it is fake?

**\[26:20\]** **Amanda:** But here's the question. If it's for something for entertainment, a documentary, like Blur it, like that's... We don't need to have that much intimate detail. I wonder if they would start doing that for court cases because sometimes, you know, especially for minors, they may not want to... I don't know if they can do that because it though, like... I don't know. I do not know.

**\[26:48\]** **Mike:** I mean, creepy. It's a creepy thought, hey, that people are just getting replaced by, kind of, AI replicants to... But I don't know. It's an interesting thing. Like, these people who are complaining about, like we covered the Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise fight scene that was totally fake, I just, when I saw this, I thought, is this a legitimate use of AI, you know, in film and TV or is it just extra creepy and we don't need this?

**\[27:16\]** **Amanda:** I watched a YouTube video yesterday of this woman who was like a stylist, like a fashion stylist for normal people, watching her videos and stuff. And one of the things she was talking about in the video is apparently, I haven't seen it. Apparently, Eritzia has some AI generated. You can upload photos of yourself. I think photos of yourself. And then AI will put Eritzia's clothes on. You can like pick which clothes, and so you can like see, again, listeners at home, I'm air quoting, see what the clothes will look like on you. But this person who created this YouTube video showed the video, like the picture that was uploaded and then what Eritzia showed, body types have been modified. Curves have been added or removed to make the clothes look better. Different sizes. And in some cases, completely changed the article of clothing. This jacket is supposed to be oversized and kind of slouchy. And so when I bought it in real life, this is what it looked like on me. But in the AI demo, it looked like a completely different, you know, single-breasted instead of double-breasted blazer form fitting. You can see the curves instead of like big and slouchy. So I mean, even these AI tools that are supposed to, oh, online shopping, of course, that's going to be a helpful tool. They are still just so far. They're going to do what they want. They're going to change what they want. Nothing is going to be realistic anymore. And it has real world consequences. Even if it is something as dumb as I bought the wrong size of pants.

**\[29:00\]** **Mike:** Yeah. Yeah, I could see something like that coming from the fashion industry. I remember when I started to, like, when I get turned 40 or something, I started looking up like how to look, how to dress when you're in your 40s, you know, for men. And it would just be always, just before AI, it would just show me pictures of like Idris Alba or Ryan Reynolds or Chris Evans. And it's okay. So be a handsome man. Be a more handsome man than I am. That's your advice for me then.

**\[29:27\]** **Amanda:** Is that possible? That's helpful. That's helpful. Oh, you. Go on. No, but it's the same because now I am, you know, even a little bit more advanced than that. And if I were to look for things in my age range, which I don't actually subscribe to, where whatever that is that you want, who cares. But so many, even if I were looking for something for my mom, my mom, who's in her 70s, they are going to show me pictures of like somebody who's like Helen Merritt or, you know, Martha Stewart, who was like on the cover of the swimsuit of the sports illustrated swimsuit edition for her 80th birthday. Old women don't have that body type. So I don't know how you can press, especially again, the fashion industry, who's always, they don't make clothes for curves, they don't make clothes for boobs, they don't make clothes for overweight, they don't, it's like it's, it's only a very specific body type. And I don't think AI is going to help make it be more inclusive.

**\[30:29\]** **Mike:** Yeah, I think you're right. That's a good point. Okay, well, this is a good chat. Wow, this is awesome. And it's new.

**\[30:38\]** **Sean:** Should we wrap it up? I think we should.

**\[30:40\]** **Amanda:** I think yes.

**\[30:41\]** **Mike:** Okay, everybody like and subscribe and, I don't know, the usual stuff.

**\[30:45\]** **Amanda:** Go check us out on YouTube. We've got the YouTube channel that yes, that's where we do these live videos, but our views are getting, they're climbing, they're getting higher, go subscribe to us on YouTube. I think I'm supposed to say subscribe to the channel, it really helps.

**\[31:01\]** **Sean:** That's what everybody is saying. We'll see you in the first week of May. Yes. That's right.

**\[31:08\]** **Mike:** Bye everyone. Bye. Bye everybody.

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- 1 [ Productivity tips to help you work](https://website101podcast.com/episodes/season-09/episode-1/productivity-tips-to-help-you-work/)
- 2 [ Deepfakes, Bullying, and the Future of AI Video](https://website101podcast.com/episodes/season-09/episode-2/deepfakes-bullying-and-the-future-of-ai-video/)
- 3 [ AI Coding, The SaaSpocalypse, and the Tools We Still Pay For.](https://website101podcast.com/episodes/season-09/episode-3/ai-coding-the-saaspocalypse-and-the-tools-we-still-pay-for/)
- 4 [ Can AI build a smartphone app in a weekend? Sean tried it.](https://website101podcast.com/episodes/season-09/episode-4/can-ai-build-a-smartphone-app-in-a-weekend-sean-tried-it/)
- 5 [ When Was The Last Time You Built A Site Without A CMS?](https://website101podcast.com/episodes/season-09/episode-5/when-was-the-last-time-you-built-a-site-without-a-cms/)

### All Seasons

- [Season 01](https://website101podcast.com/season/01/)
- [Season 02](https://website101podcast.com/season/02/)
- [Season 03](https://website101podcast.com/season/03/)
- [Season 04](https://website101podcast.com/season/04/)
- [Season 05](https://website101podcast.com/season/05/)
- [Season 06](https://website101podcast.com/season/06/)
- [Season 07](https://website101podcast.com/season/07/)
- [Season 08](https://website101podcast.com/season/08/)
- [Season 09](https://website101podcast.com/season/09/)

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