--- title: "Bots, Bingo, and \"Why We Can't Have Nice Things\"" date: 2026-06-02T05:30:00-04:00 author: Sean Smith canonical_url: "https://website101podcast.com/episodes/season-09/episode-7/bots-bingo-and-why-we-cant-have-nice-things/" section: Podcast --- <!\[CDATA\[YII-BLOCK-BODY-BEGIN\]\]>[Skip to main content](#main-content)Season 09 Episode 7 – Jun 02, 2026 27:41 [Show Notes](#show-notes) ## Bots, Bingo, and "Why We Can't Have Nice Things"  0:00 0:00 1.0x 0.75x1.0x1.25x1.5x2x [](//dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/website101podcast.com/uploads/mp3/Season-09/S09-E07-lunch-bytes.mp3) Amanda and Mike discuss the impact of bot traffic on their websites, share strategies to stop bot registrations, and explain how to identify bot traffic. ### Show Notes ## **Overview** Discuss strategies to prevent bot registrations and traffic on websites. Discussion includes various security measures like recaptcha, honeypot fields, rate limiting, time-based submission checks, and email verification before access. ## **Key Topics** - Discussion of bot registrations and traffic on websites - \[01:08\] Amanda discusses her website, Sidewalk Bingo, being targeted by bots causing registration issues - \[06:34\] Mike asks questions about the activation process for Sidewalk Bingo accounts to better understand the problem - \[15:41\] Claude AI suggestions for preventing bot registrations are discussed, including recaptcha, honeypot fields, rate limiting, time-based submission checks, and email verification before access ## **Key Takeaways** - Recaptcha is a popular method for preventing bots but has its drawbacks - Honeypot fields can be an effective strategy against unsophisticated bots - Rate limiting attempts per IP address can help limit bot traffic - Time-based submission checks can help detect bot activity based on quick form submissions - Email verification before access can help prevent bot registrations and reduce spam email issues ## **Links & Resources** - [sidewalkbingo.com](http://sidewalkbingo.com/) — Amanda's website discussed in the podcast - [Claude AI](https://claude.ai/) — mentioned as a source for website security strategies ### Show Links - Powered Transcript Accuracy of transcript is dependant on AI technology. **\[00:00\]** **Amanda:** Hi everyone, welcome to the website 101 Podcast. This is the podcast for people who want to create or maintain websites. I am one of your hosts, Amanda Loots. Hey everyone, joining me today is Mike Mella, even though he was late and I had to panic and I had to do everything **\[00:25\]** **Mike:** all by myself. GD, Mike, how are you? I don't like Riverside's interface. I've decided, did, decided. I clicked the studio button. Riverside is the software we're using to do this, the broadcasted on YouTube. I clicked the button and there I was by myself and you were nowhere. **\[00:47\]** **Amanda:** So we have just a recurring calendar event that has the link in it. Okay. I think that I sent you. **\[00:53\]** **Mike:** Yeah, well, so I will get your link. This is totally useless for people watching this. They don't give a shit about posting podcasts. Sorry, anyway, we'll, we'll square it out later. Where's Sean? We want to talk about where Sean is. Not here. **\[01:08\]** **Amanda:** Sean, Sean's not here. Sean is unavailable. **\[01:11\]** **Mike:** He couldn't join us today. So it's just me and Amanda. Glad to have you here and glad to be here. Finally, I've arrived. **\[01:18\]** **Amanda:** I'm glad that you are finally here. Thank you for joining me. **\[01:21\]** **Mike:** Yeah. **\[01:23\]** **Amanda:** So I have had a crazy annoying thing happen. Oh, actually first before I start, I do, for anybody out there who is a Parks and Rec fan, I do want to very quickly say Hillsorpe. Are you in part? **\[01:46\]** **Mike:** I'm lame, but I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not as big enough fan to know the rules, apparently. **\[01:51\]** **Amanda:** I'm a super nerd. One of the episodes they have this group, Zorp, who wants to book the park overnight because they're part of a cult from the 70s and believe that Zorp is this alien king who's gonna come down and destroy the world. **\[02:08\]** **Mike:** Got it. **\[02:08\]** **Amanda:** So every, and so based on calculations in the book that the cult leader wrote in the 70s, they keep trying to calculate the end of the world. Yeah. And so now it's, it's May 20th, which is today. Oh, nice. So, Hale's warp. **\[02:26\]** **Mike:** That sounds like it's based on, oh, come on, what's the guy's name? **\[02:32\]** **Amanda:** Almost any other call? **\[02:33\]** **Mike:** Well, yeah, but there's a specific guy from the seventh. Where they drink the Kool-Aid. No, no, that would be Jim Jones. He didn't predict dates. Okay. There was a guy who predicted actual dates and said, on this date, we're all going to, Jesus going to come back, whatever it is. And people sold their belongings. And then he'd say, well, it kind of didn't happen today. But it's going to happen on this other day. And yeah, canning, last name is canning. And it doesn't matter. Again, nobody cares about this, but it's the matter. That's funny. Anyway, throughout the course, throughout the course **\[03:04\]** **Amanda:** of the episode, the earth does not end. And so then that guy, he comes back into the park's department office, the next day. And he's like, Oh, I miscalculated. It's actually going to end on May, whatever. And Leslie Knopp, the character looks in the park's department calendar and is like, oh, no, the park is booked that day. He opens his manual really fast. He's like, oh, the world's going to end on May 20th. And she checks her calendar. And she's like, yeah, and they agree that the world is going to end on May 20th so that **\[03:34\]** **Mike:** he can book the park. Perfect. And it's Harold Camping is his name. And that guy in the shot was that the guy in the screenshot you just shared that was a picture the person who from the TV show. Yeah, but played the character who was the cult leader because he looks just like him. Yeah, so I'm sure it's a model after him. Anyway, probably. That's great. **\[03:54\]** **Amanda:** Anyway. Uh, okay. I have had a crazy annoying thing happen to me and I'm so sad. So I think I've talked about it on here before. I made a website called Sidewalk Bingo. Everybody, please go check out sidewalkbingo.com. And it's just a cute little way to play a game of bingo while you're walking around. And then because I'm a nerd, I had to add to it. So I've made it so that users can register and then you can create your own set of icons to randomly appear in play cards. And then you can share this game, this custom set of icons, you can like share it with your friends. So that everybody can play at the same time. And then because I'm a super nerd, I made it with server-side notifications so that when somebody wins, everybody else gets notified, **\[04:46\]** **Mike:** hey, this person won, your game is over. I was really happy about it. I was really proud, **\[04:51\]** **Amanda:** And I published it, and I've been making updates to it. But finally, I was out of spot where I was like, oh, I'm going to make it super live public registration. And of course, trying to be secure and trying to make everything on the up and up. When you register, you get emailed an activation link and you have to click on it before you can actually do anything with your account. That's sidewalkbingo.com. And over show notes, yeah. So over the last week, we can have, there has been 50 plus registrations that are stuck in pending and all of the the user names are just like random, randomized string of about 50 characters long and I checked I got an email notification from the service that I used to send the emails and they're like you've had a bunch of bounce you've had some marked as spam and yeah it's I'm assuming it's bots that are making all of these fake accounts and it's like like what do you hopefully Like, possibly hope to gain. It's just some cute little site. Sidewalkbingo.com that I made myself for like funsies and to like practice some skills and to share with my friends. And this is why we can't have nice things. So hey, do you have any ideas about how I can make this more secure? Because I'm sure that everyone listening who has done their own thing, like it's been wrecked, stupid bots. **\[06:34\]** **Mike:** Well, so can you tell me what the process of signing up is right now? Like do they, do people, you said they get a verification email, they have to activate their account, is that correct? So, yes, that is correct. They're all pending, meaning they're not going anywhere because these aren't real people, so they're not getting activated. **\[06:54\]** **Amanda:** They're not real people, they're not real email addresses. I think that it's sitting at about an 18% bounce rate, so they're sending it to email address that just do not exist. Yeah. Yeah, and so the email address doesn't exist, so nobody, there's not a person to be able to click on the activate link button. **\[07:13\]** **Mike:** Do you have, when they first activate, yeah, the activate link in the email, right, when the email, yeah. When they first get, fill out the form to, you know, become a member and then eventually get the activation email. Do you have any kind of spam checker in there like **\[07:30\]** **Amanda:** recapture or any of that shit? I don't because it's shit because it's because again it's just some little thing that I put together that I thought would be fun. I honestly did not think that I would need like this extra level. I hate doing the recaptions. I hate trying to pick the squares that have a bus in it. I I hate having to sit there for four seconds. Well, was it cloud flair decides that I'm not a robot? But it looks like I'm gonna have to add something. So, do you have any other ideas or maybe you wanna explain a bit better some of these things that we've just been sad about? **\[08:14\]** **Mike:** Yeah, I, too, hate recapture. Any type of that. But I do use them. **\[08:25\]** **Amanda:** So I'm sure, hold on, so I'm sure that for any viewer or listener who doesn't know what we mean by recapture, it's a way to prove that you're actually a human. And what has happened in the before or four times, in the early of the internet, there was literally just a checkbox because apparently bots, I guess at that point, they just knew had to fill in text fields and didn't know how to do a check box, I don't know. And from that, it's become more complicated like the form. The check box will mark on its own and it's like some service that you sign up for. I don't know how they check, I'm sure they check IP addresses or the fact that it took you more than .4 seconds to fill out the entire form. And then sometimes it goes so far as the recapture of those, oh, where you have to, you see the letters in the numbers that are written really squiggly as an image, and you have to type out what they are. Those are awful, or where you see the grid that's a bunch of little images, and you have to manually select the ones that have a boat, a bike, street lights, whatever it is. **\[09:43\]** **Mike:** Yep. Yeah, they're not, and they're some, they're not often as easy as you would think that they would be being like here, let me share this. **\[09:53\]** **Amanda:** Like to fill out or to install? **\[09:55\]** **Mike:** No, to use, like here, look at this. I shared this with you some time ago. This is a capture I got in a form. I don't know, trying to do something. It was like, oh, tell me what animal this is. Look at this fucking animal. What is that? Do you, is it it? It looks like it has a beak. I guess I assumed it was a rabbit, I picked rabbit, but I think I got it wrong. **\[10:20\]** **Amanda:** Yeah, for podcast viewers who are only listening to this later, it looks like it has a rabbit snout, but it does not have rabbit ears. It looks like it has like what, gofer ears, but it's a very light color fur that gofers probably don't have. **\[10:38\]** **Mike:** It's got a beard, it's got a scarf. I don't know what's going on here. **\[10:42\]** **Amanda:** So yeah, the scarf is like some red and white gingham pattern. It kind of tied like a cravat. And then the choices to select for this animal, tiger, woman, smiley horse, koala, panda, clock, kangaroo, elephant. And it's like, it's clearly none of those things. **\[11:03\]** **Mike:** No, it sounds like you're diffusing a bomb when you said those words, like a mansionion candidate, Tiger woman smiley like takes him out of his you know, whatever. Anyway, yeah, this is this is what I've encountered once. So yeah, they're not often that easy for humans to complete. So they're super annoying, but the truth is I do often use just good old fashion recapture version two, which is a check box that says, please click this if you're a human being. And I've heard there's some things where it's like it can try to detect if the mouse pointer goes to the box in a perfectly straight line from where it was, because if it's sometimes robots like manually control the mouse, and they were like click, and that will be like, being a human being, you're not gonna make a straight line with a big little jagged line, so I don't know, it does all this crazy stuff, but I still do the recapture, the Google one. It's not perfect, sometimes it has false negatives, false positive, whatever it is, where it blocks people who are actual people, like, it's not perfect, and it sucks. But that's what I do sometimes. So you might want to try adding one of those, I don't know. It's interesting. **\[12:18\]** **Amanda:** I've also heard in the past, there's this other concept called the Honey Pot. Yes. So for new developers who maybe don't realize, the concept behind it is that the, and I never, well, no, I guess I do understand this. So you add an additional field to your form, but using CSS, you say, display none. So that a user who is looking at the form, they're not going to see it. And someone who's using a screen reader, it's going to skip over it because it's because you don't see the field, right? So it's not like it's affecting your actual users. But a bot is going to land on the page and the bot action is just to fill out all the forms. So they're going to fill out all the forms that are visible, but also the forms that are displayed none. Like this field, that is this honeypot. And then on the form submit, you use some JavaScript that if there's any content in this honeypot field, because it was hidden, a user shouldn't see it, a user is not going to fill it out. If there's any content in it, it was probably, the form was probably filled in by a bot, and then therefore with JavaScript, don't do it. Yeah. But I've heard, don't like, don't submit the form. But I have heard in like the last few years that this method is no longer valid because the bots are starting to catch onto that and I can, can bots see styles on elements? Yeah. I have no idea. **\[13:52\]** **Mike:** Well, I know that sometimes, in fact, every time I've seen a honeypot field, If you look at the source code of the page, it will say, and I guess this might be for screen readers or something, it will say next to that honeypot field, do not fill in this field. Like, it gives you instructions. And maybe the bots are picking up on that and they're realizing, oh, don't fill it in, okay? Because people use AI now, right? The bot guys have AI and it's much smarter than whatever algorithms and programs they were using before. But yeah, I've done that where it's like, you name that honeypot field state or something that they might think, oh, well, the state, like what state do I live in? And very often, you're in Canada, so I don't care about states. They don't factor into my forms. So you're baiting the bots to fill it in, but yeah, you don't let it succeed as a submit if they fill it in. But yeah, that's not perfect either. I sometimes do that and recapture, which is extra annoying to have to do that work, yeah. Yeah, it is. I don't know, man. It's tough. **\[14:59\]** **Amanda:** Yeah, so I did start asking Claude AI about some things that I can do. And I didn't even read it. I just thought I would come and start complaining to you about it. And so here are some effective strategies to stop bot registrations before they happen. Number one, recapture. Recapture, which is what we're doing cloud flare turn style. I think it's maybe the one that will like check market for you. H capsa is a good Google recap and then Google recapsa version three. **\[15:41\]** **Mike:** Yeah, that one's see, I've tried that. I have had bad results with that. So that one is, it's like the check box, are you human thing? But it's in the background and Google themselves make the decision. this person looks like a bot. I don't know what they're basing this on, but it does the logic on its own. So the user doesn't see anything and Google decides that was a real person, let it go through or that wasn't. I've had bad experiences with that where it's blocking too much because you can like tell it how sensitive you want it to be, but I don't know how to gauge how sensitive it should be to detect a bot. So I find that either traps too many humans or lets too many bots in, so I don't I don't know. I usually just go with a check box, even though I used to swear I would never make users do that. I don't know. This is why we can't have nice things. **\[16:33\]** **Amanda:** That's right. So the second suggestion from Claude is a honey pot field, which is what we just talked about. It's a free zero friction, surprisingly effective against unsophisticated bots. I guess that's the difference. Yeah. It also suggests rate limiting to limit registration **\[16:58\]** **Mike:** attempts per IP address. Yeah, I wonder how often the bots are on the same IP address range. I guess I've heard that where it's like check to see, check your logs and whatever you think is a bot look at the IP address and presumably if they're all coming from the same Russian farm or whatever they'll have the same string of IP addresses. I don't know if that's accurate or what, but I've heard that. Yeah. **\[17:27\]** **Amanda:** It's a time-based submission checks. Track how long it takes from page load to form submission. And if it's under two or three seconds, it's most certainly a bot. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I guess. But I mean, but then like even with basic JavaScript, you know, you just set a time out for a few seconds. So, I'd be really surprised if bots weren't already onto that trick. **\[17:50\]** **Mike:** Yeah, and I have, I use one password as my password manager, and very often when I'm filling out a form, you know, it says name, email address, phone number, address, all those typical fields, if I just... They're already filled in. Yeah, I can manually click a thing and it already populates it all. So, I mean, it wouldn't be within, I wouldn't submit it within one second. I double check everything, but it does fill in for fast for me, so not sure how effective it is. **\[18:15\]** **Amanda:** It does, yeah. And then the last one, and actually I'm starting to see this a little bit more, which I also very much hate, is that you have to require email verification before there's any access. Like I've started coming across sites that, like on the first page, they just want my email address, and then I have to submit that form before I can get to to a second page, but then I like enter my password or I can like fill out the registration. So it is like this two step process, and I don't know if it's the two steps that is tricking the bots or if they somehow check the email address. To see if it's in the system already, to see if it's valid somehow, I'm not sure. **\[19:01\]** **Mike:** Like I could see if, just, I've never heard of that, but based on what you describe, like for your sidewalk bingo app, If you, not that you should do this, but I think the workflow would be, okay, type in your email address, new user that wants an account, **\[19:16\]** **Amanda:** and they type it in, submit, **\[19:18\]** **Mike:** it sends an activation email sort of to their email address, they click a link that maybe goes to the rest of the form for that. **\[19:27\]** **Amanda:** So like that actually registers that. **\[19:28\]** **Mike:** Yeah, so in your case, the bots would never get that, so they're just constantly. **\[19:33\]** **Amanda:** Yeah. **\[19:33\]** **Mike:** But you'd still have all that traffic hitting the form with the email address fields, right? Like they'd still reach out. **\[19:40\]** **Amanda:** And it would still be sending a lot of emails to get bounced. **\[19:44\]** **Mike:** Yeah, right, so I don't know. **\[19:46\]** **Amanda:** Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know. I've also a couple times lately seen, there's also an uptick in sites that you don't even need to have like a username and password anymore. You like put in your username and then it asks you if you want like a single use code emailed to you or a text message with a single use code or enter your password and it's like that's, I guess, but that seems a lot. **\[20:17\]** **Mike:** Yeah, and by the way, we need, so just to go back to the recapture thing just for anyone who hasn't used it, we were talking about how annoying it is to set up. The reason is because you gotta go to Google and their user interface for setting up recapture thing is incredibly bad, like it's just very difficult to follow. You create an account there, you get a secret key and then you get a private key or something like that, a two different key, sort of like SSH stuff. SSH and you sort of put them into your website and it sends a payload when someone fills out the form and the Google says, hey, did you get the payload? Send me this other thing back and there's this whole process that but you need these two keys for every site that you're going to be setting that up on. So it's super irritating process. **\[21:08\]** **Amanda:** Yeah, and right now it's free, but because it's Google, who knows when that will change. I remember a hundred years ago when Google's slogan was, don't be evil, isn't that nice? Isn't that nice? And now they are, now they're one of them. **\[21:26\]** **Mike:** Well, there's a lot of other companies that don't have that slogan and they're perfectly comfortable being evil. **\[21:30\]** **Amanda:** as well. So there's it. Yeah. Oh, well, Google no longer has that slogan. Yeah. That's **\[21:36\]** **Mike:** right. That's what I'm saying. I just wanted to quickly speaking of bots. So you were talking about signing up, like bots that sign up for accounts or whatever, but I did some digging as well about bot traffic on websites. Because I remember years ago, I had this client that was a, it was like a recipe submission website. You know, there's, you know, those recipe site sort of, here's how you make the best. And there were thousands and thousands of members on this site. It was a very, very big site, very popular. And she hired me to sort of do the analytics. And I did some digging. And I found out, I think it was called C-traffic is what the term was back in the day. It's basically a measurement in Google Analytics that says this is basically a bot. This, this traffic right here bots probably. And it was like two thirds of their traffic. They were getting like hundreds of thousands of visits per month. And I had to tell this poor client, listen, I'm sorry to do this, but I'm pretty sure a lot of this traffic is not real. And she was like, well, the concern because it was like ads, revenue, and stuff that they had to account for. And I remember her saying like, it's so painful hearing that your stats are tanking basically, but it's because they didn't exist in the first place, you know. **\[22:55\]** **Amanda:** yeah so anyway I just want to show I looked into one of my sites and I did **\[23:06\]** **Mike:** some so this is a screenshot of some traffic on my sites I blanked out some stuff but so as you can see the homepage which is right here get got about 616 visits in this particular time frame, which is the vast majority of it's 60% a week or a month. I can't remember what it is, but it's relative to the rest of them. You can see that it's the bulk of the visits, right? Yeah. And yet, average engagement time per user, two seconds for 600 people. So this is most likely bot traffic or largely anyway. So that's one way you can see is like if there's a huge spike on a particular page visit metric, but they don't engage and I have another one here. Look at this one. 416 people from Singapore. This is my website. Yeah, I'm talking about. So I'd love to think I have a, I'm, I'm, I'm huge in Singapore. I don't think I am. So, **\[24:09\]** **Amanda:** and again, look at the average engagement time. Zero seconds. Yeah. 416 people. So this is one quick **\[24:16\]** **Mike:** way, if you have analytics running, you could go into your site and find out, you know, what's going on with the bots? That is most likely bot traffic. So, yeah. So, are you **\[24:27\]** **Amanda:** just going to like block, block all of Singapore from your site? Or maybe I'll start promoting **\[24:34\]** **Mike:** Singapore-focused content and see if I can like offset it with real people or something like that. I don't know. Yeah, just so that the average, average visit time **\[24:43\]** **Amanda:** is longer. Yeah, I so I have Google Analytics on sidewalk bingo sidewalk bingo.com, but I haven't I haven't gone to look at it lately, but it's because it was just so it just made me sad. I was like, yeah, I mean for you, personal stuff, even this one, like this **\[25:01\]** **Mike:** is my site, if there's a lot of bots there, I don't like it, but I don't have to prove to anyone that I'm getting a huge, you know what I mean, it's just for me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. client stuff it's important but our own projects not so much. But it's definitely disappointing to see how gross the internet can be at times you know. **\[25:20\]** **Amanda:** It is yeah, just people trying to be malicious and do malicious things like yeah and it's easy **\[25:31\]** **Mike:** to let to make a robot literally a program just send it out there and say oh find forms somewhere and fill them in and sign up for things. **\[25:42\]** **Amanda:** Yeah. And it is literally just to try to get access to sites, to maybe eventually try to take advantage of some exploits, no, take advantage of some security issues, and maybe try to get to the server and just all of it, just boo, boo, boo, boo, and sometimes they look for like **\[26:04\]** **Mike:** slash admin or slash WP-admin to try, you can see on your logs that they're hitting that to see if they can find out a way to get access to your site in case you're an important site, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. All right. So yeah, so if you are a regular listener to the **\[26:24\]** **Amanda:** website 101 podcast and you make bots reach out to us and let us know what you get out of it. **\[26:31\]** **Mike:** And you can you could be on the show where you can we'll black out your face. Yeah, you can wear like I put on like a **\[26:37\]** **Amanda:** word modulator. Yeah, that would be lots of fun. So go to the website 101podcast.com slash contact and you can let us know what kind of malicious or even just for funsy things that you like to do when you make these bots that attack poor sweet innocent sites that are just for fun like sidewalk bingo.com. **\[26:58\]** **Mike:** All right, and if you are someone who's been attacked and has some fun stories about bots We want to hear from you too, so please read that. Yeah, that would be cool, too **\[27:07\]** **Amanda:** Nice, all right **\[27:09\]** **Mike:** We good it was nice talking to you make you too, and you're the host so you got to play us out **\[27:13\]** **Amanda:** I guess right. Oh, yeah, don't forget it on the bed. It's turned it on live. It is weird. Yeah, it is on live Play **\[27:25\]** **Mike:** Bye, buddy. Bye, everyone. Close Transcript This episode is a Lunch Byte! If you enjoyed it, please consider [subscribing to our YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/@website101podcast)and watch us live. Have a question for Sean, Mike, and Amanda? [Send us an email](/contact). 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