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## Backups: Why You Need Them and How to Implement Them

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Do you have a backup strategy for your website? If you value your website content, you need to have regular backups. In this episode, Sean and Mike discuss what a backup strategy is, why you need one, and what options are available to make it happen.

<a name="show-notes"></a>### Show Notes

What is a backup?

Why do you need a backup solution?

Backup service options

How does a backup service work?

Be sure to test your backup solution.

Examples when backups saved the day.

### Show Links

- [cPanel](https://www.cpanel.net/)
- [JetBackup](https://www.jetbackup.com/)
- [Backup Pro](https://devot-ee.com/add-ons/backup-pro)
- [CodeGuard](https://sectigostore.com/codeguard/backup)
- [BackupBuddy](https://ithemes.com/backupbuddy/?SSAID=1089817&sscid=31k4_hyke5)
- [Dropmysite](https://www.dropmysite.com/)
- [SimpleBackups](https://simplebackups.io/)
- [Ottomatik](https://ottomatik.io/)
- [A Website Backup Strategy is Essential](https://caffeinecreations.ca/blog/a-website-backup-strategy-is-essential/)
- [Do you have a backup solution?](https://belikewater.ca/blog/entry/backups)

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**\[00:00\]** **Mike:** Hello, I am Mike Mella and with me is Sean Smith and that makes this the website 101 podcast.

**\[00:06\]** **Sean:** Sean, how are you doing, man? I'm doing great. Mike, glad to be back recording regularly. So

**\[00:13\]** **Mike:** what's our topic for today? Yeah, this is going to be fun and important. It's about backups. So backing up, you know, your website, making sure there's no, you know, if there's something that goes wrong, you have an emergency plan and we'll go through all kinds of options you have for backing up, why you need them, all that stuff.

**\[00:34\]** **Sean:** Yeah, that does sound important because if I lose the data on my website for my business, that's going to, you know, big impact is going to cost a lot to get all that rebuilt and up. But if I have a backup, I can just restore that backup and be up and running in a few minutes, maybe a couple hours, depending on how your setup is?

**\[00:57\]** **Mike:** Mm-hmm. Well, okay, so let's just dive right in here then. So why don't you give us sort of like a rundown of exactly what is a backup? It sounds fairly straightforward and maybe it is, but like literally if I have a site on the website owner and someone says, do you have backups? What's your backup policy? What exactly are we talking about here?

**\[01:17\]** **Sean:** Well, a backup is basically what it says is a copy of all of your data. And that would be the files that run the CMS of your website, so you need to have a backup of that, the templates, the database backup. And this is really important because the database has all of your content. So whatever you're writing in your entries in your blog or your homepage, all of that is included in your database. your backup also needs to include upload files, so things like images that you've included in your entries or PDFs or other files that you're making available publicly. Right, so basically everything that comprises your website.

**\[02:06\]** **Mike:** Yeah, yeah, and I guess you could, if you want to really break it down into the sort of, well, I guess high level view of it, the database would be generally it's your content, So when you add content to a page, like say a staff member to your staff page or whatever it is, that's typically stored in a database. And then you have the file structure, which is how is that information presented? What styles does it have? What kind of animation effects might happen on the front end, all that kind of stuff. That is handled in the code side, which is usually your file system. So.

**\[02:44\]** **Sean:** Right, your HTML, your CSS, your JavaScript, and your CMS the way the CMS works.

**\[02:49\]** **Mike:** Right, right. So we're talking about mostly the database and the file system. Those are two things that you need to be backing up and make sure you have them both backed up, not just one, because that's problematic, right?

**\[03:01\]** **Sean:** And a backup, there's a couple of different levels of backup, there's on-site backup, which is pretty common, especially with C panel hosting. Okay, so most shared hosting is on C panel. C panel includes a backup option by default as far as I know, and that just backs up everything. It's a one option, includes database, all your files, if you want to restore it, you pick a day, and it overwrites everything.

Boom, I've done this in the past. It was very handy. However, the downside to that is it's your on-site backup. And it's typically on shared hosting, it's on the same server that your site is on.

So this backup is really only useful if you screw up something on your site and you want to go backwards. However, if your hosting company has some sort of catastrophic failure, maybe there's a fire, the hard drive that your site is on fails, all of these things are possible. If your backup is on the same server as your site, and that server fails, your backup is also failed.

**\[04:21\]** **Mike:** Right.

**\[04:22\]** **Sean:** So you need to have an off-site backup, and so that would be something that is hosted on a different server, often with a different company, a very popular way to backup off-site is to use something like Amazon and their Glacier service, because it's much cheaper if you're on Glacier. I don't know all the details about it, but it's a good way to do that.

**\[04:51\]** **Mike:** Yeah, and so you're quite right about a C panel. C panel, if you're a website owner, you might be used to it if you're using sort of shared hosting. It's a thing where you log in and you can access your email accounts and maybe your database and your file system and your users, users, FTP, users, all that kind of stuff, that big sort of control panel that lets you do that. That's C panel.

**\[05:13\]** **Sean:** You'll see that in places like HostGator and GoDaddy hosting and stuff like that.

**\[05:18\]** **Mike:** Now, so I do have a client that's on a C panel-based host and I can tell you that now in that one, I don't know if this is common or what, but they are using a system called Jet Backup. And from what I have read on their documentation, it is stored off-site. So it's part of their hosting service, but if there were to be a catastrophic failure with the host's machines, in theory, your content would still be available. However, if you access it through C-panel, I don't know how you would get to it.

I mean, if the host had a problem, but they were sort of promoting the idea that, Oh, it's all stored off-site, so it's safer.

**\[06:02\]** **Sean:** Does this cost extras part of an elevated plan or is it included with the basic plan on this host?

**\[06:09\]** **Mike:** That I don't know, because my client on this host is running one of the higher plans. So it may not be on the basic plan. But I can also say that it's not as simple as pick a date and it reinstalls everything. You can drill right down to files, individual files, and reinstate them, which we'll get to that in a second. what exactly is made up of.

**\[06:32\]** **Sean:** That is an excellent option. So what was it called again? It's called jet backup. Make sure we include that in the show notes.

**\[06:40\]** **Mike:** Yeah, I mean, so far, we'll talk about use cases shortly, but it looks pretty robust, but maybe not the best option, which again, we'll get to that. But so, okay, so let's back up, as it were, and talk about why do you need backups? like if I were if I'm talking to a client and I say hey you need a backup solution and they say why why do I need that what would be the reasons what what are all the things that could possibly go wrong that would make me need my

**\[07:15\]** **Sean:** backups well you could accidentally delete something yes simple user error right yeah user error your hosting company the server could explode or fail or whatever You need to have a backup for that.

**\[07:32\]** **Mike:** Yeah, I remember a couple years ago, one of the issues, one of the popular things, sorry, not popular, but common issues that people had was ransomware. You remember that whole thing where there would be like hospitals and what not, universities where some hacker would get in and say, we have taken control of all of your content and if you want it back, pay us 200 grand in Bitcoin or some nonsense. And then, and that's it, and a lot of them, from what I heard in the news, was they were sort of stuck because they didn't have backups of their data. If they did, they would have been able to say, you know, you can do what you want.

Well, you don't want them to do what they want with your data, but at least if you have a backup, you don't rely on them, the hackers, to give you back your content.

**\[08:18\]** **Sean:** Right. Well, and it doesn't even have to be ransomware. I mean, you could just have some sort of malware that's infecting your site. And this is a common issue with open source plug and CMS is such as WordPress.

If your site gets hacked and you don't know how to fix it, or it's a really big hack and it's difficult to fix, it might be simpler to find an older version of your site and restore it over top of it and your hack is fixed. That's right, yeah. So having backups, if your backups are off site, you have the option to take that backup and move your site to a new server or a new host. Makes it easy.

So, maybe the relationship with your hosting company has gone south, or they went out of business, or something has happened, and you need to move to a new server for whatever reason. Like, hope this never happens. But if you have off site backups, wow, you just take those backups and you restore them on your new server and boom, you're done. It's really easy.

**\[09:23\]** **Mike:** And if the reason you need the backups is because of something an issue that happened with the host, that may be prompting you to what we get to move away from this host. I don't trust them anymore, you know what I mean? Yeah. And if you have access to your backups, that's...

**\[09:37\]** **Sean:** When I was using shared hosting, I moved around quite a bit and... Right. It's a bit of a hassle. So you want to make sure things are easy for you.

Definitely. Let's talk about backup options that are not included with your hosting package. So these are the backup options that you control yourself. So one of the first options would be something that perhaps your CMS includes an option to backup.

And this would be typically done through a plugin. In the past, there was a plugin for expression engine called backup pro. That's no longer available, but it was really awesome. And I know there are similar plugins for WordPress.

Now, backup pro gave you the option to schedule backups daily, weekly, monthly, however you wanted. You could store them locally, which would just make the copy on your server. And we already talked about the dangers of that. But it would also give you the option to hook it up to an Amazon S3 account or a Dropbox account or other cloud hosting, it would do the backup, send the backup to your cloud service, whether it's Amazon or Dropbox or whatever, and that would give you a backup that's off site.

Now, this backup was an all or nothing. So if you wanted to restore, you restored everything or you restored nothing. It didn't give you granular control that Mike was talking about earlier. Mike, do you know what a plug-in for WordPress is that does this sort of backup?

**\[11:19\]** **Mike:** So I don't use WordPress all that often. I do know that there are probably several options and I know one service called CodeGuard which is also a third party and we'll talk more about those later but it's a third party service where you can get an account with them and hook up your website to them and they will back it up. I know that there's plugins available for WordPress that connect to CodeGuard.

**\[11:46\]** **Sean:** Oh, okay, yeah. So I wanted to talk about CodeGuard later as a separate section, but if it has a plugin that connects into it, that's a really great option. Yeah, I kind of vaguely recall something called backup buddy and I'm gonna Google that right now.

**\[12:05\]** **Mike:** Okay, and while you're doing that, I'm gonna go on, again, backing up a little bit and talk about exactly what goes on when a backup is created. So typically with any service, whether you're using a plugin or a third party service or whatever, what happens is if it's a really good service, it will let you choose a time of day, where, so for example, every night at 3am, it creates a backup of the database, the file system, as we said earlier, and typically they keep copies of the backups for a certain amount of time. So for example, you might say, I want you to back up the database every night at 3am, but only keep the most recent seven copies. So then after seven days have gone by, it starts to overwrite the oldest copy.

So it's not like you're backing up your entire site forever and it's just taking up more and more space. Usually it starts to overwrite stuff after a while and for the really good services, you You can choose what is that? You want to do it every, back up every week, every day. Keep the last five, keep the last 10.

So that's typically how a back up service works. Hi, hope you're enjoying this episode. We're always looking for topic suggestions from listeners. So if there's anything you'd like us to discuss in the future, please let us know.

**\[13:24\]** **Sean:** We're also looking for guests. If you know somebody who would make a great guest, if you think you would be a good guest, please let us know. You can reach out to us at website 101podcast.com slash contact. Right, okay, so backup buddy is a thing and I'm looking at the site right now. The original WordPress backup plugin, backup WordPress, restore WordPress, move WordPress. So yeah, it's a paid plugin and it has a lot of features, so I would definitely look at this if you're running a WordPress site.

**\[14:02\]** **Mike:** So now do you know offhand if that stores at offsite or if it just backs it up for you to download or?

**\[14:09\]** **Sean:** I'm not sure. I would have to dive in a little bit. I think it does offsite, but I'm not sure. OK, OK. Oh, I'm looking at the pricing tier. So you get, with the gold plan, which is $100, you get a year of plug-in update, a year of ticket support, and five gigabytes of backup buddy stash storage space. I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds like it's offsite.

**\[14:36\]** **Mike:** It does. Because sometimes for plugins you might, it could just create a backup as some kind of zip file and then say, okay, download your file and keep it on your own machine, which honestly is probably a good idea to have copies of it locally on your own machine, but if that's the only option, it might be a little cumbersome to have to do that all the time.

**\[14:54\]** **Sean:** And five gigabytes is not a lot, but if you're running just one site, I think five gigabytes for most sites would be sufficient.

**\[15:02\]** **Mike:** Right. So do we want to talk about other third party backup options that we might have used before?

**\[15:09\]** **Sean:** Yeah, absolutely. So similar to CodeGuard, there's a number of different services which came up in a discussion in the Craft Discord channel and those were later put into an issue the craft link list email list, and I copy and paste it those into our notes here. And so the first one that I want to talk about is the one that I personally use, and I've been using it for two and a half years now, maybe three. It's called Drop My Site.

And we'll include the link in the description as well. And I know Mike uses it on my recommendation. Yes, indeed, very grateful to learn about that. So drop my site is dirt cheap.

I think it was 30 bucks a year for their basic plan, and then they have a higher liver plan, which I just upgraded to, because I was running out of storage space. And that's $70 a year, and you get triple the space.

**\[16:08\]** **Mike:** Yeah, it's pretty affordable.

**\[16:11\]** **Sean:** Now drop my site. Does all of your backups are off site? So when you sign up for it, you connect your credentials with FTP, or SFTP or SSH so that it can access your service and you set up your file backup. So it will backup all of the files from your CMS, your uploads, like your PDFs and images, and then you set up another backup, which is your database.

So it's two different things at the same time. Files and database, two different tasks that it runs. You do this and then you have options to exclude files that you don't want to include so you can blacklist different files in the file backup. And you get also control how often you want the backup done, do you want it done daily, do you want every two days or every week or every month or just annually or you can set up a custom backup schedule.

Both of these scheduling apply to your file or your database and then you also get to set the time that you want the backup to run. So I've got like 10 or 15 sites hooked up to my account because I'm hosting some of my clients and I try and get them running at different times but you know some of them run at the same time but you know whatever.

I've got all of these things are backing up off site. It's brilliant, it's easy to use. The only thing that I have an issue with with drop my site is that they only take

**\[17:55\]** **Mike:** PayPal for payment. Oh, is that right? I've spent so long since I signed up, I didn't really realize

**\[18:01\]** **Sean:** that, but okay. Yeah, that's a bit of a bummer, but yeah. Anyways, in the end, it's not that big of a deal.

Now drop my site also offers some additional services including a site uptime monitor. Yes, so this is a setting that's in your control panel and you tell it what URL you want to monitor and then it gives you four or five regions to choose from and you can choose all of them or one of them or Two of them or whatever you want and then you choose that and Then you add email addresses so that people can get notified if your site goes down.

Yes Now I have the set up and I've gotten the emails and And it was brilliant, it was really, really great.

**\[18:48\]** **Mike:** I was able to use that feature to show to one of my clients that being hosted on GoDaddy who neither of us are a fan of was a bad idea because I was able to say, look, look at the downtime of your site on this platform. When you're hosted on them, on that thing, the site is offline far more than any of my other sites that are on other hosts. And I was able to compare them and show them. And they said, oh, yeah, I guess you're right. We should probably, and I was able to convince them to get off GoDaddy that way. So that's great.

**\[19:21\]** **Sean:** Right. And there's no limit to how many site monitors you can set up.

**\[19:27\]** **Mike:** Yeah, yes. Yeah, that's right. It's very helpful. So now, let's talk more about you, you touched on something there about reinstating a backup and restoring that. So let's talk a little bit about what's involved and what you should be able to do rather than just restore this whole site to the way it was yesterday. Maybe you don't want to do all that, right?

**\[19:47\]** **Sean:** Actually, I want to back up a bit again, because we're thinking of a lot. We're going to get that song, what's that Beyonce song? We'll talk about restoring the backups after, but I want to continue talking about these other services that offer backups, so we get those all

**\[20:03\]** **Mike:** All right, so we got code guard, code guard, drop my site.

**\[20:08\]** **Sean:** Drop my site, and then we've got two other services that were mentioned in the craft discord, as well as the craft link list email service. The first one is simple backups.io.

And I'm opening up their website right now.

And I have not used this. I don't have an account or anything, so I'm just looking at what it offers.

So bring your own storage.

So you can, you have the option to store your backups on digital ocean, Amazon, Google, Dropbox.

They won't even touch this simple backup services.

So this is an option if you want. It's got an API, scheduling, triggers. Yeah, it looks like it has a fair number of good features. And the pricing, there's a free plan, $29 a month plan, and it goes all the way up to $200 a month.

**\[21:06\]** **Mike:** Yeah, you might want to get a higher, I mean, I don't know, I guess they just offer more saves, or what exactly do you get with the higher plans?

**\[21:17\]** **Sean:** More options, but for, I think for the typical listener of this podcast, they're not going to be going with the $200 a month plan. That's more like somebody's doing professional hosting or hosting their own clients. Yeah. So it looks very feature rich.

It's definitely one to consider. Although at this point, I'm going to stick with drop my site until I'm not until there's a reason to move. Yeah. The other one that came up was automatic.io and that's OTTOMATIK.

Okay. Oudomatic. Yeah. Sounds very German.

Yeah. And let's take a look at their features on their website. Yeah. It's very similar.

You can choose from Amazon or hosting the backups with Automatic Dropbox, Black, Backblaze, Google, Drive, and let's check out the pricing. Yeah, pricing is almost the same as the last one, you know, 10, 29, 59, $109 a month. So it seems very reasonable. There are options.

When I first set up drop my site, there were only two options. Code guard and drop my site, and this was two or three years ago. And I think I chose drop my site because it was cheaper.

**\[22:44\]** **Mike:** Yeah. But it's fairly reliable.

**\[22:47\]** **Sean:** I've been very happy with it. Now, two other options that came up in the Discord and email list are these manual configuring where you set up these scripts that will SSH into your service. And one of them is a working concept forage backup. And the other one is NY Studio 107 craft scripts.

**\[23:14\]** **Mike:** And these are probably beyond the scope.

**\[23:16\]** **Sean:** These are very advanced. And I actually did set up the craft scripts a couple of years ago on one site. And it was really complex. And it was messing with my mind. And I was like, I just want something easier. I know it was free and it's well-documented, but it was difficult for me. That's when I switched to drop my set. I just don't have the time to do this on every single site. I want something easy. So that's why I went with drop my site. OK.

**\[23:51\]** **Mike:** OK, so nowadays, there's a lot of options available. That's good for whatever level of backups you want to start, you want to be doing. And you definitely should be doing something with your site no matter what. So getting back, let's get back to that question I had where, let's say you have information backed up and something goes wrong and you want reinstate a backup. You should be able to reinstate a particular file or just your database or a folder of files or whatever you have, right? It doesn't it shouldn't

**\[24:27\]** **Sean:** just be all or nothing. Right because if you've got a problem and you need to go back to a week back to get the fix so your backups are you need to go to a one that's a week old or two weeks old. You don't want to take the entire backup and overwrite all the changes you've done on the website in those one or two weeks. You want to only fix that problem and it could be a single file or something like that.

So you want to have the option to drill down, yeah, granular control and choose which files get backed up. So as we mentioned earlier, C panel doesn't give you that option as far as I know. Typically not, but something like drop my site does and I have actually used this and me too was easy And it just worked. It's brilliant.

Now I'm sure that these other options like code guard and Automatic and simple backups all give you the same kind of granular control, but you again, we don't have Accounts we can't check this Yeah. But having that option is really important. Now one thing that I remember Andrew Welch, who wrote an article about backups for craft, he wrote the craft scripts we mentioned earlier. One thing he talked to mentioned in a conversation I had with him before is that you need to test your backup strategy.

Yep. Having a backup plan that is untested is not a backup plan. Because if it doesn't back, if you can't restore the back up, your backups are not helpful.

**\[26:09\]** **Mike:** That's right, you have to make sure that in an emergency, you are able to reinstate a backup and make sure that everything works as expected.

**\[26:19\]** **Sean:** Right, so you might, if you're using drop my site, you'll hook up drop my site, make a change on your website, some small chains that you know is there, and then restore a backup and confirm that that change has now disappeared because you've gone back to that.

**\[26:37\]** **Mike:** I did this once for a client where I hooked up, I think I was using Drop My Site for that and I think I created a file called test.txt just a file that I put on the server somewhere and I also added a comma in like a copyright line or something. You know, instead of copyright 2020, whatever, it was copyright 2020 comma, whatever. It's just a simple change that no one would even care about. But I knew it was there.

Make the change wait a week and then reinstate a version of that template from before I made that change or something to that effect. And see if it worked, see if the test file that I created is now gone, whatever the change, you know, whatever it is you want to monitor, but basically make a change and then revert to before you made the change and make sure everything works. Absolutely. That's so important.

Yeah, it worked, it worked really well in my case. Okay, so do you want to talk about examples, real world examples, when we've needed backups? I know I have some, or do you want to to get it. Well Mike why don't you go.

Yeah okay so this is just as a matter of

**\[27:53\]** **Sean:** fact it only happened two weeks ago. Oh okay. So I mentioned the client that I

**\[27:59\]** **Mike:** had that I got off of GoDaddy so that was great. Yep. We have been talking for a long time about you probably should be hosting on something better. I've managed to get the move to something better. But what had happened was the client asked me to make a change to the site, to add something. And I added it, and then I said, here you go, check it. And they said, I don't see the change.

And we went through the whole thing where it clear your cache and try it on your phone and all the rest of it. Nothing was working.

She managed to turn off the Wi-Fi on her phone and check it, and it worked in that case. So long story short, we were able to discover that something internally about their office was not letting them see changes that were made from outside the office, namely my changes.

So it turns out what happened was there was a, what's called a DNS record, which we talked about on another episode, we don't have to get into it now, but basically it was a little setting on the server that was essentially whenever someone checked the website from inside their office, the client's office, it would reroute them back to the GoDaddy site, which was still running.

And instead of the new site on the new host, which is the one that I updated. So in other words, there were two copies of the site, and whenever they made a change, they were updating the old version, and when I made a change, I was updating the new version, and when the public visited the site, they were seeing the new version.

**\[29:24\]** **Sean:** So the old version was only available inside the office because there was a DNS setting at the router level.

**\[29:32\]** **Mike:** Correct, and they had not yet deleted, you know, they hadn't canceled their plan yet, and thank goodness because we figured this out, and we went inside, we saw this little DNS record and we realized that was the problem, changed it, we did the backup thing that we just described where we added a comma somewhere.

I actually got them to do it from inside the office and let me know and I said, yeah, I can see the comma now so that means updates from inside were now working and blah, blah, blah.

But the point is having to with the backups, I was able to restore the site to a certain point back before this problem happened because they were worried that they had lost some of the articles that they had added or whatever.

So it was a big issue and we had the backups available and we were all very grateful and the problem got solved. But it was pretty exciting.

**\[30:22\]** **Sean:** Wow. Yeah, I know I've done a restoration in the past, but I can't remember offhand. I just can't get the details offhand, but I know I've done it and it saved my butt.

is it's so worth it.

If you don't have a backup strategy right now, you need to start thinking about it seriously.

And both myself and Mike have written articles on our respective blogs about this.

So mine is called a website backup strategy is essential.

And we'll include a link to this in the show notes.

So you can just go to caffeinecreations.ca and search for it on my blog.

And Mike's article is called, do you have a backup solution?

And it's on his blog as well at be like water dot

**\[31:14\]** **Mike:** CA. And we'll put them in the show notes, of course, as well.

**\[31:17\]** **Sean:** Yeah, you definitely read these articles, understand more about your backup situation and get a backup. If you're not maintaining the site yourself, like you have a web developer or you have a hosting company you need to talk to somebody and make sure that you understand how the backups are done. Nothing worse than having your entire online business just disappear because some unforeseen accident happened. That's why we have

**\[31:46\]** **Mike:** backups. And conversely, there's few things are more rewarding than having a big problem happen and then realizing, oh yeah, we have an exact copy of the entire site from a few hours ago. So nothing is gone, you know. It's great. It's a great feeling.

**\[32:03\]** **Sean:** Right. And being able to drill down, choose the file, click that restore button, wait. One to five minutes, depending on how many files you're restoring, and have it fixed just with a couple of clicks. That is so great.

**\[32:22\]** **Mike:** It is. And by the way, if anyone listening doesn't have a backup strategy and you know you need one, feel free to reach out to me or Sean and we'll be happy to hook you up with any of the services we described today for pretty used to doing it.

**\[32:36\]** **Sean:** Absolutely. And also for the record, we do not have an affiliation with drop my site. We're not getting any referrals. We just like the service. That's right. That's right. And it

**\[32:50\]** **Mike:** wouldn't have to be that, you know, you don't have to go with our recommendations, but do

**\[32:54\]** **Sean:** something. Use some backup service for sure. Absolutely. And I think that's a wrap for today. Thank you so much for listening to this episode. My name is Sean Smith, your co-host. And you can find me at my website, caffeinecreations.ca on Twitter, caffeine creation that's spelled C-A-F-F-E-I-N-E-C-R-E-E-T-I-O-N. And also, I'm on LinkedIn, caffeine creations.

**\[33:24\]** **Mike:** And I'm Mike Mella and you can find me online at B-Likewater.ca. And I'm also on LinkedIn and Twitter. My username is Mike Mella. That's M-I-K-E-M-E-L-L-A.

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